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	<title>Comments on: THE PROBLEM WITH MOVEMENTS</title>
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		<title>By: bobby</title>
		<link>http://ethur.org/wp/blog/?p=299&#038;cpage=1#comment-881</link>
		<dc:creator>bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mike, great post
I am a part of a movement… the Vineyard. I feel that sometimes the core idea behind the word movement when it was first used by the vineyard had a great intention behind it, the people wanted to move away from the religious confides of the word denomination. But I think the heart has changed where the religion of marketing and self promotion has taken the idea of movement and exploited it to their benefit. When the vineyard first used the word movement it was to describe the very nature of how God was moving at the time… and like most groupings of people we do not update our vocabulary to describe the current acts of events. I do agree with how you see the word movement being used, and even though I am a part of a movement the most I ever use the word is when I need to go to the bathroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mike, great post<br />
I am a part of a movement… the Vineyard. I feel that sometimes the core idea behind the word movement when it was first used by the vineyard had a great intention behind it, the people wanted to move away from the religious confides of the word denomination. But I think the heart has changed where the religion of marketing and self promotion has taken the idea of movement and exploited it to their benefit. When the vineyard first used the word movement it was to describe the very nature of how God was moving at the time… and like most groupings of people we do not update our vocabulary to describe the current acts of events. I do agree with how you see the word movement being used, and even though I am a part of a movement the most I ever use the word is when I need to go to the bathroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about finding a leader (someone like Orrin Woodward, for example) who has successfully started a movement that has the makings of being a very big, very positive movement... and then adding your skills, energy, resources, attention and courage into this large movement? If all the people wanting to start movements would just put all their energy into one, big movement, it would get somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about finding a leader (someone like Orrin Woodward, for example) who has successfully started a movement that has the makings of being a very big, very positive movement&#8230; and then adding your skills, energy, resources, attention and courage into this large movement? If all the people wanting to start movements would just put all their energy into one, big movement, it would get somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: jay hardwick</title>
		<link>http://ethur.org/wp/blog/?p=299&#038;cpage=1#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>jay hardwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike -

well said. the bottom line is that movement is up to God, not us. our job is to prepare people to see and engage in the move of God already happening.

great and needed reminder. thanks for putting it out there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike -</p>
<p>well said. the bottom line is that movement is up to God, not us. our job is to prepare people to see and engage in the move of God already happening.</p>
<p>great and needed reminder. thanks for putting it out there!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Bunting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Bunting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
A polite rebellion against expert opinion: Do you say this as someone who&#039;s started a movement which succeeded, or as someone who&#039;s tried to start a movement that&#039;s failed?  Not that you&#039;re wrong either way, but I think it makes a difference.
Joe
PS I want to start a movement and I&#039;ve failed several times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
A polite rebellion against expert opinion: Do you say this as someone who&#8217;s started a movement which succeeded, or as someone who&#8217;s tried to start a movement that&#8217;s failed?  Not that you&#8217;re wrong either way, but I think it makes a difference.<br />
Joe<br />
PS I want to start a movement and I&#8217;ve failed several times.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Goins</title>
		<link>http://ethur.org/wp/blog/?p=299&#038;cpage=1#comment-845</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Goins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. i&#039;ve been running into a few of those movement-starters myself. I guess I&#039;m in that boat, too, because I want to be a person of influence. i&#039;ve got more projects than I can handle, hoping one of them will take off, but if they don&#039;t, I still think I&#039;ve done what I was put on this earth to do... start things. I&#039;m okay with that. Moreover, I think these alleged instigators of movements need to relax and not worry so much about &quot;the movement&quot; and worry about riding the wave, whatever that looks like for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. i&#8217;ve been running into a few of those movement-starters myself. I guess I&#8217;m in that boat, too, because I want to be a person of influence. i&#8217;ve got more projects than I can handle, hoping one of them will take off, but if they don&#8217;t, I still think I&#8217;ve done what I was put on this earth to do&#8230; start things. I&#8217;m okay with that. Moreover, I think these alleged instigators of movements need to relax and not worry so much about &#8220;the movement&#8221; and worry about riding the wave, whatever that looks like for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Stickens</title>
		<link>http://ethur.org/wp/blog/?p=299&#038;cpage=1#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Stickens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 03:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike...great post.  Enjoyed it!  I think it might be the longest on the Ethur blog for quite some time! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike&#8230;great post.  Enjoyed it!  I think it might be the longest on the Ethur blog for quite some time! <img src='http://ethur.org/wp/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, good thoughts. 

I&#039;ve got a few dreams/movements of my own and can&#039;t wait to ride them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, good thoughts. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a few dreams/movements of my own and can&#8217;t wait to ride them!</p>
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